Cary:  Hi, I'm Cary Sherburne, Senior Editor at WhatTheyThink.com and I'm here with Jim Lucanish who's President of O'Neil Data Systems in L.A. and soon to be Texas.

Jim Lucanish:  Yes.

Cary:  We're here at Hunkeler Innovation Days 2011 here in Lucerne and maybe you can talk a little bit about what you've seen out on the floor that's interesting.

Jim Lucanish:  Well, my purpose for coming here is we're opening a Texas facility, so I'm looking to purchase equipment.

Cary: I'm sure that makes them happy.

Jim Lucanish:  They're all happy.  They're my friends this week.  One of the things I did purchase was a Hunkeler device, which is a 30-inch book block maker.

Cary: Okay.  Oh, that they were showing in the back of the --

Jim Lucanish:  Yes, yes.

Cary:  Oh, that's pretty impressive with the double plow fold.

Jim Lucanish:  Yes.  And I'm excited about that and I'm going to up that on a T200 HP Press.  So we're pretty excited about that.

Cary:  Wow.  And that'll go in Texas?

Jim Lucanish:  It'll probably go in Los Angeles and in Texas.  But I haven't told them that yet.

Cary:  They'll know now.

Jim Lucanish:  I know.

Cary:  And what I found interesting about that was that the glued book block that it comes off as glued.  So will you be -- will you have special finishing equipment that actually grabs that?

Jim Lucanish:  The goal is to put that directly in line into a binder.

Cary:  Okay.

Jim Lucanish:  Eventually.  And what we're going to do a little bit differently in Dallas than we did in Los Angeles because we have the luxury to do that now is to try to create a total roll workflow.  We're going to really get away from cut sheet, feed binders with rolls, and some kind of interesting things.

Cary:  That's great.  That's great.  So you're going home a little poorer then in the checkbook?

Jim Lucanish:  Yes, we're going to go home poorer.  Hopefully, the sales will pull me through.

Cary:  There you go.  That's great.  Thank you very much for sharing with us.